There are so many religions in this world that for those looking for that spiritual connection, finding one can be a struggle. Our guest in this episode found herself in this dilemma until she was given advice: “when your soul finds its home, your heart will know.” Eventually, she found herself in Sufism. Liza Florida introduces us to Dr. Rabia Subhani, a neuropsychologist who, after a spiritual epiphany in 2013, became immersed in learning mindfulness and self-compassion. Here, Dr. Subhani shares with us her story of spiritual awakening and how this extended to her work helping neurodiverse children and their families. She dives deep into autism, the benefits of meditation, and the key teachings of Sufism that taught her all about remembrance and love. So walk with a Sufi in this conversation and gain great insights on spirituality, medicine, and, most of all, love.

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The Walk Of A Sufi….Remembrance And Love With Dr. Rabia Subhani

We’ve got a special guest part of Season 5D. She is trained as a neuropsychologist, had a spiritual epiphany in 2013, and became immersed in learning mindfulness and self-compassion. She was profoundly impacted by what she learned and she ended up retraining in multiple evidence-based mindfulness programs so she could teach mindfulness.

Not finding exactly what she wanted, she ended up creating her own mindfulness program for families with neurodiverse children called Mindful Village. She also provides mindfulness life coaching to women with a special emphasis on parenting, spiritual mentoring, joyful living, and high performance. Welcome, Rabia Subhani to the show. Thank you so much for being a part of this Special Season 5D. How are you doing?

I’m doing fabulous. Thank you so much for having me. I’m excited about our conversation.

This is what I wanted to tell the audience. It has been an absolute, incredible, almost unbelievable journey of putting all these guests together because every time I connected, it was like, “Where have you guys been all my life?” It’s energy, frequency, and vibration. Sometimes we’re on different paths until we’re meant to divinely meet. That speaks with finding Rabia, finding me, or the universe putting us together. I gave your brief bio, but let’s dive in. Could you tell us a little bit more about the story of your spiritual awakening and what got you into your work? You are a practicing neuropsychologist.

I went through a lot of life changes as most people who have spiritual awakenings do. In my case, it was an unexpected divorce. I have a son with autism and he did not handle the change as well. He fell apart. During this time, we had multiple moves. He changed schools. Dad was out of the picture. All of this combined to give him a real behavioral issue. He was constantly melting down. We ended up screaming at each other. I was a psychologist and I specialized in autism. I felt so much guilt and self-blame that I couldn’t find a way to get to him, make him calm down, and not be in so much pain.

Ironically, I taught him mindfulness when he was around four because he had been having some issues back then. When he started using those techniques, he got calm and was able to emotionally regulate. During this time, he completely forgot everything that he had learned. He was melting down. I thought, “If I can’t change his behavior, maybe I need to change my reactions to his behavior.”

I went on my own spiritual journey. As I got into the mindfulness one, I was on a retreat one day and I had this minor epiphany that the reason why he hadn’t been able to retain what he had learned was that I had not been modeling it for him. I had thought those were his issues and I need to teach him mindfulness, not I need to be doing it too, modeling it, and living it.

When I had that realization, I was motivated to learn it for myself so I could teach other parents and other women in particular. I retrained in a lot of different programs. I became a certified mindfulness meditation teacher with a two-year program because I wanted to be able to offer this to other families. I’d been doing neuropsychologists mostly testing. I’ve been testing children and adults that had issues. I would give them a diagnosis and say, “Here are your school or work recommendations.”

A lot of these kids could not do talk therapy, and even a lot of adults didn’t feel comfortable doing talk therapy. When I learned about mindfulness, I was like, “This is something that everybody across the board can implement and not have to worry about having to talk or being able to emotionally self-regulate by using mindfulness techniques and self-compassion.” From that point, I was like, “I need to do something so I can teach others how to be able to handle these issues as they come up.” That’s what I did.

I created a program that had all these components of mindfulness, positive psychology, self-compassion, and some neurosciences because that’s my background to be able to teach families then also started doing mindfulness-based life coaching for women to teach them how to navigate things coming up and how to live a place from soul alignment for those who are still struggling and have not found their path.

Along the way during this journey, I had this remembrance that I was a Sufi. I remember when it happened because I was watching this video on Oprah’s Super Soul Sunday. It was a Sufi mystic. I started watching it. I was like, “There’s something about that called to me. I’m going to go look this guy up.” I looked up and watched a longer video by him and I started crying.

I had this out-of-body experience and it was like, “It was saying exactly what was going through my heart and soul. I’m a Sufi.” It was like an instant knowing. That moment changed my life forever. I’m getting goosebumps just talking about it. For so long, I’d been struggling in trying to figure out, “Do I need a path? Do I have to follow a specific philosophy or spiritual path, or is it okay?”

I loved Buddhism. I was raised as a mainstream Muslim, which some parts of it called to me, but a lot of it didn’t. When I got into Buddhism, I was like, “I’m probably a Buddhist.” I told my mentor who was a Buddhist nun, and who had converted from Judaism many years ago, “I think I’m a Buddhist.” She goes, “When your soul finds its home, your heart will know. It’s not going to be,’ I think I’m Buddhist.’ It’s going to be, ‘I know I’m this.’” That’s exactly what happened. It was like, “I watched that video. I started crying and had this bizarre body experience. I was like I knew.

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We’re raised in many different religions when we’re born based on culture. The whole process of remembrance has been potent for me, even from when I started inter pre-interviewing because I kept saying to everyone, “Remember who you are.” We always know that in this journey, your light and spiritual beings have a physical experience. I was using it loosely. When I came across this whole mastermind group and a deeper awakening, I was like, “Wow.”

Remembering even the smallest things. I would be lighting candles. I’m creating an altar for myself, putting sage. I didn’t know that I was probably tapping into one of my past lives and remembering that. It made me go back and think, “What else was I doing from remembrance that was mimicking everything that I had done in the past to ultimately bring me to this place?”

Maybe that’s also why we get deja vu. Those are probably things that we’re remembering from our past life and this is somewhere in your DNA. It happens to come up and you’re like, “That feels familiar.”

I was even telling people too, “Life had seemed like a bunch of miracles were happening to me,” but they’re not. When you truly go down a healing journey, you remove all the programs. It doesn’t happen overnight. You can’t do one ceremony and remove all your programs. It is an ongoing thing. As you start clearing out things, like heavier dense stuff in your field, you start opening up the communication lines.

I was like, “Once that happens, you feel like many miracles are happening, but you’re not. You’re accessing your higher self and infinite potentiality, and then one day, your life is just a complete dream come true.” We jumped from your beginnings as a neuropsychologist all the way to remembrance and all this stuff. Let me go back a little bit because I’m pretty sure a lot of people will want to know this. When you specialized in autism at the time, did you choose that specialty even before you had your son?

I did. This is one of life’s synchronicities. I was fascinated with autism. Before I even got into grad school, I went and did a little teacher training in this little preschool with children that had autism. This is in the ‘90s. Autism was not super well known in the ‘90s. I trained because I was fascinated that there was such a huge spectrum of how it showed up in different children. For me, there was this quality about it that was mysterious, then you had the children who were incredibly intelligent in one area, but they couldn’t do simple social skill type of things.

It was that dichotomy of being able to do certain things and not being able to do certain things. There was something about it that was interesting to me. I specialized in that. I went through grad school and got married. When I had my son, I did not catch it for the first couple of years because he had such a mild presentation of it that he didn’t show all of the symptoms that I had been trained in.

I had worked with more severe children. He had great eye contact, was pretty sociable, smiled, and hang out with other people. I missed it for a while until he started doing some very stereotypical autistic behaviors like flapping his hands when he got excited and little things like that. He had a language delay, so then I picked up on it.

From the beginning, I have been very grateful that A) I was trained in this. I knew what to do. I wasn’t desperately seeking help because I knew exactly what to do with him at home. I had the resources that I was able to stay at home, raise him, and do all of the training that I had learned with him to teach him speech, daily living tours, social skills, and all that stuff. Also third, he could have been much more severe. It could have been a lot worse. He could have something else. Especially now since I’ve been on the spiritual path, I’m very conscious to always be in gratitude and abundance in every facet of my life.

That is a place where people get trapped, where they see lack or there’s no lack. They’re not in abundance. Everything is something that’s missing. It’s not grateful for what you have and being thankful. I’ve been very conscious about keeping myself in that state of gratitude. No matter what goes wrong, it could be worse.

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Sufi: People get trapped when they see lack and no abundance. Something is missing in everything they see.

I have the resources to be able to do this for him. I can do this. I can reach out and find help if I need it because I have connections. I’m in the mental healthcare world. He’s been my best teacher. I’m like, “You have been the best teacher anybody could ever have for spiritual growth and for everything.” Anytime I feel smug that I’m starting to learn how to be calm and in a Zen state, he’ll push those buttons and like, “I don’t think so, mom. Let’s see how good you’re doing.”

They’re our greatest teachers. I grew up being in the free spirit and all this stuff. My son chose the most opposite person to learn from because he is a tourist. He’s more like, “I know you’re a big idealist. There’s time. You have to make money.” Even as much as I’m on a deep spiritual journey, one of the things, even the lesson that I’ve had is that I have to surrender. He has his own journey. I keep thinking that as a mother because I’m highly spiritual, I could do this for my son. Those are one of the things, even in the journey of parenting. You’ll realize as much as you want to implement these things to help them, they have their own journey to go through and they teach us so much.

That’s our own little test.

One more thing that I wanted to ask in regard to autism. It’s true. I grew up, let’s say, in the ‘80s to ‘90s. Now that I’m in my older adult years, I started noticing this. I was even saying it to my other girlfriend, I said, “Autism wasn’t even there when we were growing up.” I’m pretty sure you’ve done immense research on this. Do you know why autism and how it’s come up in more recent years or is it something that we tried to dust underneath?

It’s a combination of things. It’s always been around. It’s been around for a very long time, but the people who got diagnosed were the ones that were very severe, nonverbal, or rocking and hitting their heads. Those were the people that were diagnosed before the ‘80s. In the ‘80s or ‘90s, it started getting much more prevalent because there was a bigger knowledge. People knew about it. They were teaching doctors and pediatricians to look for it.

As the years have gone by, it’s become even more prevalent in that the dissemination of information, like getting pediatricians to do well child checklists that include autism features when they’re toddlers. Many years ago, this was unheard of. You didn’t get diagnosed until you were in elementary school and teachers noticed something.

Now they’re trying to get earlier identification by involving pediatricians, speech therapists, and people who tend to see these children the earliest. It’s a combination of people becoming more aware of it, better diagnostic tests, and becoming more aware. The latest thing is for girls and women who often get misdiagnosed or completely skipped until they’re either in their 20s, 30s, or 40s. I do adult autism assessments. I specialize in women.

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A lot of women who come to me have always known there was something different. They felt like one of the things that keep coming up is they feel like they have to act in social situations. They’re like, “It’s exhausting because I have to like realize where my arms need to go. What do I need to say if somebody says this? Am I looking at them in the eye? Am I remembering to do that?” It is a similar pattern, but they’ve been misdiagnosed because women tend to fit in easier in school especially.

By ethnicity, I’m Filipino. I was raised by Filipino parents, and sometimes you don’t even see these little things to pay attention to. When you’re the first generation here or you’re just having to raise a family, oftentimes it’s about survival, “Could we make the mortgage?” I remember having an asthma attack and they’re like, “You’re fine.” Nothing to say anything like my parents treated me bad, but sometimes we talk about that. In our culture, our parents would be like, “You’re fine. Don’t worry. Suck it up. You got this. This is like this all the time in the Philippines.”

I heard that one a lot, “People deal with that all the time. That’s not a big deal. We lived through smallpox. What are you talking about?”

“We used to walk in the snow.” No one walks in the snow. Fast forward, because here’s the thing. I’m learning from this show as well, then you are going into spirituality, how does that work with the balancing of Western medicine or something very holistic?

I’m excited to talk about that because when I first went into this field, it was very cut and dried, science, medical, and black and white. Over the last years, there has been a huge shift in people who are doing research based on neuroscience. There’s doing the scientific background of meditations and vagus nerve activation with the deep breathing in Pranayama, the deep breathing that they practice in Eastern philosophies, and all of these spiritual types of practices.

They’ve shown that when you do deep breathing, you activate the parent sympathetic nervous system, which brings your stress level down, calms you down, and slows your heartbeat. All of these things have a basis that was not understood and were scoffed at, even mindfulness. Many years ago, it was laughed at. It was not considered anything typical or anything to be used for medical purposes.

With Jon Kabat-Zinn who brought mindfulness into Western medicine, he started doing so much research many years ago that he was able to show that mindfulness decreased depression and anxiety and it helped with chronic pain. There were many research findings that came out of his work over the past years. He was at Harvard, so they took that seriously. A large part, because of his work, mindfulness is now mainstream. One of the programs he founded, MBSR, is in use all over the world.

You use the Western practice of neuropsychology and you merge it with holistic teachings.

I use my background to bring in pieces when I’m teaching. I do mostly mindfulness teaching now. I still do neuropsychology because I do assessments. When I’m teaching my clients, I like to bring in some neuroscience. One of my favorite research studies that I like to use is that there was this study with this monk in France, Matthieu Ricard. They showed that if you compare meditators who were experienced like he was, because he was a monk meditating for years, with new meditators, and they put them in MRI machines.

When they were inside the MRI machines, they started making lots of distracting sounds. There were symbols, jumping, and shouting. When they did Matthieu Ricard’s MRI, he had no brain changes. He was experienced at meditating that he could completely tune out all of the distractors. He stayed in that calm, tranquil state the whole time they were doing all these bizarre sounds. The newbie meditators had their brains going all over the place because they were responding to the sounds.

This is not the same study, but they found through another study that when you meditate, you produce a chemical substance through your pineal gland, which is right where they call the third eye, that repair cell damage. These things are now coming out, which many years ago we had no clue about. We’re like, “Meditation, whatever.” Now they’re like, “You’re repairing cell damage and you can keep your calm state while kids are screaming. If you’re a mom and you’re used to meditating, you can tune out your kids and still keep your blood pressure and stress level down.” It’s fascinating what’s coming out.

Sufi: When you meditate, you produce a chemical substance that repairs cell damage.
Sufi: When you meditate, you produce a chemical substance that repairs cell damage.

It’s interesting that you talk about that because, for the last few years, I’ve had a meditation coach. Mine has always been astral projections. It got creative. That helped me still open up my crown chakra. However, even attending some of the seminars that I have, we went into deep breathing. I was doing an exercise at that conference. I was like, “Where did this all come from?” I could feel the sensation all over. My third eye was opening. I was like, “How come I’ve never done this modality before?” If you start those breathing exercises, it’s powerful because you can almost instantly take yourself into a different conscious state of awareness.

It takes a while. A big part of my healing journey was energy healing. There are many things like ADHD and autism that some people are going to be like, “Are you sure you can heal it?” It is a process of unfolding to see what works for you. You’ve got a great practice going on. To clarify with the audience, when you see your practice is mindfulness village, you are talking about the conscious awareness of being able to identify autism and go about it in a mindful manner.

These are two different things. I do mindfulness coaching, which is one-on-one. It’s with adults, and I have a program called Mindful Village. The program teaches parents how to use mindfulness to help their children regulate themselves and also for themselves. It’s for the parents and things they can teach their children, but it’s about teaching the parents about self-compassion, not feeling guilty about their parenting skills, then showing that compassion for their children, compassionate parenting.

It teaches them about how to help their children emotionally regulate and how the parents can help themselves regulate. There are a lot of stressful interactions when you have children that have neurodiverse challenges, and then giving them hope for the future. Having some positive, joyful living type of techniques to help them not just survive but thrive, but get happy to look forward to the next day.

Get down and play with your children. The best form of mindfulness is being with your children, playing in the moment, and not thinking about the past and the future. I teach them the basics of mindfulness and then I teach them, “Once you’ve got those down and you’re doing the practices, what next? Next, you start thinking about gratitude, flourishing, and how to live joyfully from day to day and not be mired in the challenges of neurodiverse parenting. The program is an eight-week secular program. It teaches them these techniques and how to use those to incorporate them into their daily lives so that they’re happy.

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When I compare myself now to where I was many years ago, I was miserable. I’d gone through a divorce, overwhelmed, and single parenting. There’s a high rate of single parenting among neurodiverse parents. The marriages don’t last because the children’s issues are too much for them to overcome. I was screaming at my kid all the time. I found guilt and self-blame, and low self-worth because I’d gone through a divorce.

There were a lot of my own issues that I need to work through but sometimes when you’re in that vicious cycle, you have to put the kids first. You have to take care of them. You don’t have a choice when the child has extra issues as well. What do you do? You need to learn how to take care of yourself. I love to use the oxygen mask analogy. You got to put your mask on first, like on the plane.

You can help other people.

Parents forget that. They’re struggling and surviving and they forget all the things that they need to do to take care of themselves. I’m like, “You’re not going to be able to take care of your child if you don’t take care of yourself. You’re functioning at half the level that you’re supposed to be.” It’s super important for parents to learn how to take care of themselves and let go of that blame. I teach them affirmations and things like mirror work and all the stuff that I’ve picked up in my spiritual journey.

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This has been a beautiful journey for me to even record Season 5D only because I even just remember going through the divorce. My son was 1 to 3 years old as I was going through all of that. He didn’t have autism, but everything seemed overwhelming on top of my own personal issues of what I was dealing with going through the divorce. It’s commendable to you, most especially, to create these programs, the eight weeks. I’m assuming they’ll jump into coaching if they feel that there’s a need to have you on a regular basis to push them through this process. It’s beautiful. It’s like you came here knowing what was going to happen.

We get to the best part, which is your spiritual journey because that’s where you and I heavily talked about, the unraveling of it all. Going back to what you were talking about, there are so many different religions or practices and spirituality out there. I have at 1.2 thought, “I love Buddhism. I would go visit China, go to the Buddha, and my offering.” When you came across that teacher and she said, “You’ll know.”

She was so sure because she used to be Jewish. When she went to a Buddhist class, she had the same experience. She started crying and it was an inner knowing. It was 100% gut-knowing. She said, “I know you. You’re not going to be one of those, ‘I think I am.’ You’re going to know. You just haven’t found it yet.” In Sufism, it’s all about love and we call the divine, Our Beloved. Our goal in life is to be reunited with Our Beloved. Sufis achieve this oneness with the divine through different methods.

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Sufi: In Sufism, our goal in life is to be reunited with the beloved.

It can be through art, whirling like whirling dervishes, poetry like Rumi, or music. There are certain musicians who when they sing, all of their songs are sung to the divine. Sometimes they can sing in certain syllables. They keep repeating the syllable. It sends you into a trance and you’re in the flow. I used to listen to a famous Sufi singer in the ‘90s and I would go into these trances. I told my parents at the time, “I’m pretty sure I’m Sufi.” They’re like, “You’re mainstream. You just think that because you liked the singer.” I was like, “You must be right.” I let it go.

I loved Buddhism because I loved meditating. I couldn’t find that anywhere. I’m like, “I think this is it, but some of the things didn’t resonate.” When I listened to this guy, Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee. He was part of the Silent Sufis and they meditate. When he said that, I was like, “That’s what I am. I’m a silent Sufi because I like to meditate, but I sing God’s praises in my heart.” You focus on the heart and flood it with love.

One of the main Sufi meditations is that you focus on a piece of joy in your heart. Anytime a thought comes to mind, you flood it with emotion, with love until you have no sensation in your body, no feeling except love. You’re overflowing with love and you’re not thinking anymore. You’re just feeling the love. You are love. That spoke to me so strongly.

After I realized I was Sufi, I started looking at the different orders because they all have their own practices. They all have different ways of achieving that oneness with God. If you choose to follow a guide or you want to do it on your own. It’s been a journey. The main piece was knowing that I was a Sufi. It was like a wholehearted, whole soul gut-knowing. It was like, “I’ve always been a Sufi. I just forgot for a while.”

It’s you know that you know, and it’s all of us going, “It’s taking each of our individual journeys to go home because at the very core, we are love and we are all one. That has been the driving mission of the show, most especially for Season 4. The Sufi practice is beautiful because art imitates life. It’s like your life is the art form in whatever skill and gift that you have to give to the world.

It’s been a lovely journey and life-changing honestly. Someday, I may thank my ex for setting me on this path. I think I would’ve eventually remembered, but it might have been many years down the line. I don’t know. I think he started me on it faster.

I was having the previous show that I was like, “You don’t have to have this pattern of relationships like seventeen years, but it’s okay. In the end, it led me here and this is the greatest gift of all.” There were parts of me like, “Could I have figured this out in half the time? Not 17 years, maybe like 10?” I look back and it all led from one thing to the next.

It unfolds in divine timing and we have to be patient. When you get there, you don’t even think about how long it took to get there. You’re happy you’re there.

It does become timeless. I wanted to share this with the audience. I’m pretty sure that if you are on this for anything that has interested you in this show and this specific season you have an understanding that we are all spiritual beings having a physical experience. There have been things that, “Time is just an illusion.” It’s a gauge for us as human beings in these human bodies that allowed us to measure things.

When you truly get to this most spiritual part in your connection with the divine, there is no time. Therefore, what might have seen like miracles are you pulling from this time-space continuum that doesn’t exist. You’re pulling the quantum field of infinite possibilities. For Rabia and myself, since we’ve been down that and we honor wherever you are on your journey, we’re both here in service to you and her specifically because she’s got a specialty.

What are you doing? Look at how many people you’re reaching with your amazing show.

Yours is Sufi. I was like, “What’s mine?” I’m going to go out on a limb and talk about it. I had always been attracted to the solar system, stars, and cosmos. I came across someone who was talking so much about the star system. I was like, “No wonder I used to go to sleep and just watch the planets.” I could watch the History channel all the time and watch planets float without listening to the audio.

I come to terms with, “Regardless of all the different cosmos.” Some people say, “That’s the alien race.” Maybe if it is the alien race or anything like that, it’s to each of us to define. I do believe that not only just this Earth and planet, but there’s also a whole multiverse and trillions of galaxies out there for us, and this is Earth school.

I believe we are all from the star systems. Maybe it just takes a process of remembering that we all belong to this one field of being one. We came here in these different vessels to learn, “How would you know what good is if you didn’t know what bad is?” That’s all relative, “How would you know what happiness is if you didn’t know what sad felt like?” These are the journeys that we all take in order to discover ourselves. I commend you so much for going down that journey. We covered so much and this has been an amazing show. Is there anything that you wanted to share? It can be from any facet of your spiritual practice.

The one thing I want to share is something that I learned from my business mentor. It stood out to me. She said that when you are in that state of bliss, complete joy and you’re having like the perfect moment, you are at the best energetic match for the universe or the divine. When you’re in that moment, that is the time that you reach out. She calls it tickling the universe and saying, “It would be so great if whatever it is you want. You put it out into the universe and you let it go. You don’t get attached to it. You don’t keep coming back to it because then you’re pulling yourself back into the 3D level if you’re attached to the outcome or anything.”

She said, “When you’re in a state of bliss and you’re completely happy, you’re having the perfect moment, you’re eating the perfect food or you’re with your family, that’s the time when you are the best mat for the universe. Those are the times when you should be reaching out and saying, ‘It would be great if I could have a child, be able to travel or support a charitable organization. I thought that was interesting because she was right. When you are perfectly happy and you’re in a state of love and joy, that is what the universe and the divine are. You’re resonating the highest at that point.

You reminded me of a story. This was many years ago. I was going through such a major heartbreak from a relationship. I came across a reader from the UK. I needed a while to get to her. She goes, “I want to say thank you. It’s an honor to be in this space with you because of what you’re going be doing.” I said, “Do you know something I don’t know?”

She was all like, “Of course, I know something you don’t know. You’re exactly where you’re supposed to be in your journey. Keep going because I promise you, you will have these blissful moments where you’re crying because you know your highest truth.” Every time I cry in those blissful moments, I think of that story and this reminded me of it. You’re in these blissful states like crying because you’re so happy you know the highest truth. There are tears of joy.

Do you know Humans of New York, the Brandon Stanton series where he interviews people in New York and different parts of the world?

I haven’t heard of that.

Go to Facebook and look it up. He was a photographer. He lost his job and he started out taking pictures of random people on the streets of New York. He started asking them about themselves. They became this whole series where he does a little story about each person he meets. He ended up traveling and doing them in different countries, but they’re super popular. They’re beautiful human interests and love stories.

One of the times that he did it is with this guy who told him that he was spiritually awakened. He said, “I’m not trying to convert anybody. I’m just telling you that one day I was on my balcony and I was listening to my Walkman. I suddenly realized that I was not my thoughts. I woke up, but the one thing I will tell you is that everybody is exactly where they’re meant to be.”

Many people are awakened by the interview or whatever, they say the same thing. Reaffirm what you said with your story for your readers because a lot of people get hung up on, “How do I wake up? What can I do?” That attachment to the outcome holds you back. Not getting hung up and wanting to do it, but surrendering and coming back.

It is constant surrender. Even producing Season 5D was constant surrender because it’s like, “I have these big views. I want to do this. There are eight billion people to do this for. Slow down.” There are lots of things in the I have to take shape because there are so many different lives. You cannot stay too much to like, “This endpoint when I’m healed and I don’t feel the pain anymore,” because for that brief moment, maybe you are meant to feel the pain, so then you could get to your next step.

You’re doing the shadow work. That’s part of the process.

There are people like myself, Rabia, and the rest of the guests for season five. This is going to be an amazing, incredible season for all of you to pull from that because, at the basis of everything, everyone is here to spread love. Dr. Rabia, thank you so much. If anyone would love to look more into your work, where could they find you?

DrRabia.com. Thank you so much for having me. It was a beautiful conversation about spirituality.

It has been truly my pleasure. With my Season 5 guests, I’m going to be in touch with them from this lifetime and on.

You are a soul connection.

We’re here to be of service to all of you. Thank you everyone for reading this episode and we will catch you on the next episode. Thanks.

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About Rabia Subhani

Rabia trained as a neuropsychologist had a spiritual epiphany in 2013 and became immersed in learning mindfulness and self-compassion. She was so profoundly impacted by what she learned, that she ended up re-training in multiple evidence-based mindfulness programs so she could teach mindfulness. Not finding exactly what she wanted, Rabia ended up creating her own mindfulness program for families with neurodiverse children, Mindful Village®. Rabia also provides mindfulness life coaching to women with a special emphasis on parenting, spiritual mentoring, joyful living, and high performance.

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